Davie's 60-86 bantamweight era thread

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The way he's dancing around the ring, FLASH. You don't really see bouncy footwork like that these days do you?

No, he was very mobile.
When someone can get shots off on the move like that, it can be a joy to watch.
Hernandez however was largely just on the run in the early part though, seems to be getting ino a fight a bit more in those mid rounds. hopefully the last 4 rounds carry on in that trend
 

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Couple of fights I skipped over on route to Harada vs Caraballo

Ben Ali would go on to lose to Pimentel, Chionoi before losing the EBU to Salvatore Burruni.

Also in April, Chucho Castillo beat Jose Medel by a unanimous decision for the Mexican title.
Efren Torres then stepped up to bantam weight to complete a really bad 1967 for Jose Medel by besting him over the 10 round distance.

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Don't think I found footage for either.
Do remember enjoying Medel however, had a nice style and seemed to bring the best out in some other fighters too
 

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Another 2 months passed and Carlos was out against another Hernandez. Presumably no relation because Emilio Hernandez was a Dominican born resident of Venezuela. The standard of opposition was getting progressively worse, with this guy a 4-4-0 novice that would go on to lose 7 of his next 8 bouts including Zarate

There would be an interruption in Zarate's reign of terror at bantamweight as he would step up to 122lbs in September for a warm up fight ahead of an assault on Wilfredo Gomez Super Bantamweight crown


The fight starts with Japanese commentary, then an English voice comes in for a few seconds before switching back to Japanese with aguy who seems to just sit making random vowel noises over the top of his co-commentator. Bizarre

1. 9-10 Hernandez. A typically quiet opener with just a few flurries from Hernandez punctuated by the odd jab from Zarate

2. 10-8 Zarate. I was just thinking that left hook was looking sharp in the opening minute, when Zarate catches coming out of an exchange with a cracking left hook and flattens him. Piles on the heavy barrage of blows for the remaining minute and rocks his head back more than once.,

3. 10-9 Zarate. Hernandez recovers and fights well this round but is narrowly beaten by Zarate, who wings in a lot of nice shots from range, like that long sweeping hook/uppercut he throws

4. KO. Lot of good shots landed that round, some exchanges where Emilio looks heavy handed too but they just don't have the same effect as the flush Zarate shots. The one two that floors him is as sweet a 2 shot volley as you'll see, again Hernandez backing out from an exchange, gets caught by those long levers of Zarate and never looks like beating the count, not sure he tried.
 

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Wilfredo Gomez vs Carlos Zarate -WBC super bantamweight title
This would be Wilfredo's 7th fight for the WBC crown, with Zarate bizarrely struggling to make weight 4lbs above his usual weight class.


Wilfredo Gomez 122 lbs beat Carlos Zarate 122 lbs by TKO at 0:44 in round 5 of 15


Down for the Count: Wilfredo Stops Zarate in Five (Defense #6)
By Christian Giudice, BOXING.com, August 29, 2014

It was one of those fights where the rabid Mexican and Puerto Rican fans expected all hell to break loose. Fixated on the middle of the ring, fans in the Roberto Clemente Coliseum in San Juan, Puerto Rico appeared ready to explode. A wave of excitement spread through the venue; that same passion would only intensify as the fight took hold.

Many boxing experts would look back to this bout as the precursor to the popular Mexican-Puerto Rican boxing rivalry. The enmity was fueled by WBC super bantamweight champion Wilfredo Gomez, who had earned a reputation for dousing the fire of Mexican challengers, the most recent a seventh-round stoppage of Mexico’s Juan Antonio Lopez in April 1978. Now, nearly five months later, Gomez was making his sixth title defense and successfully chartering a path to greatness. An opponent inextricably linked with Mexican’s past boxing giants, Carlos Zarate entered with a record of 52 victories, no losses, with 51 knockouts.

To add to the fervor surrounding the bout, Gomez and Zarate had a combined record of 73-0-1, with an astonishing 72 KOs. Similarly, when Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard met in 1980, they combined for a record of 98-1, but lacked the same impressive knockout ratio. Physically, Zarate stood two inches taller than Gomez, but lacked the same fluid movement and speed. Zarate relied on power in both hands, and would be in hot pursuit of the knockout punch; comparatively, Gomez had confidence that his pressure and ability to adapt to any challenge would be the key. For Gomez, there was no hurry: the knockout would eventually come.

Neither fighter made the 122-pound limit on the first attempt as both weighed over 124 pounds. In fact, Zarate needed four trips to the scale to make 122. When the bell rang on October 28, 1978, neither fighter looked to set a blistering pace. Zarate and Gomez took turns as the aggressor. Instead of coming forward, Gomez appeared comfortable in the counterpuncher role. As Zarate stalked, Gomez flitted in and out of punching range.

Eventually, Gomez’s confidence grew when he landed the first significant punch of the fight. It occurred when Gomez countered Zarate with a straight right and then eased him into a lunging left hook. Both fighters spent a good portion of the first round devising a clear strategy to get inside. Patiently, each fighter embraced this more passive approach over the first three rounds. Although Gomez was more effective landing an overhand right, Zarate opted for a left uppercut thrown from below his waist.

Toward the end of the third round, Gomez beautifully set Zarate up with a lazy left, and then immediately closed the gap with a jolting right hand that landed directly above Zarate’s guard. Amid a torrent of fans itching for the typical Gomez attack, the champion had still not yet unleashed his blend of speed and power.

Early in the fourth, Gomez was content to fight going backwards and let Zarate come to him. Mixing in a check left hook and an occasional jab, Gomez disrupted Zarate’s gameplan. Susceptible to left hooks and an occasional straight right, Gomez hadn’t completely deciphered the Mexican legend’s style. Still, Gomez recovered to land a lead hook that sent Zarate to the canvas toward the end of the round.

Zarate took a standing eight-count and immediately began to take more punishment. Gomez followed him to the other ring post and cautiously looked for an opening; seconds later he found one, a clean right hand that staggered Zarate. Not finished, Gomez followed him to the middle of the ring where he sent him down for the second time with a glancing right hand after the bell. The referee, Harry Gibbs, stepped in to start the count, but Zarate had risen and Gomez ran over to him to land one more left hook.

Gomez’s intensity reached its peak as he refused to sit in his corner, anxiously awaiting the chance to end the fight.

Continuing the onslaught in the fifth and final round, Gomez landed three hooks, the last one a glancing blow off of Zarate’s head. Then, Gomez moved Zarate to the ropes – with a right hand to his ear – where he landed the same uncontested vicious left hook that sent him down a round earlier. Seconds later, Gomez sent Zarate through the ropes as Gibbs made a half-hearted attempt to step in.

“When Wilfredo fought Zarate, Zarate was not at his best,” said Paul Ruiz, who managed Alfredo Escalera at the time. “Gomez did get ready. He had to be at his best. But I didn’t expect that type of performance.

“I did expect a better fight from Zarate. Everybody was going crazy in Puerto Rico. Gomez had just beaten the best Mexican since Ruben Olivares. Zarate could punch like a mule, but he didn’t show anything that night.”

The fight was stopped at :44 of the fifth when Gomez knocked Zarate down again and then viciously stepped in to land a straight right as Zarate crawled on his knees. Zarate’s corner threw in the towel even before Gibbs began the count. In the end, Zarate, a courageous warrior, wilted under the extreme pressure that Gomez applied. As soon as the towel was thrown, the celebration began!
 

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Wilfredo Gomez vs Carlos Zarate -WBC super bantamweight title
This would be Wilfredo's 7th fight for the WBC crown, with Zarate bizarrely struggling to make weight 4lbs above his usual weight class.


Wilfredo Gomez 122 lbs beat Carlos Zarate 122 lbs by TKO at 0:44 in round 5 of 15


Down for the Count: Wilfredo Stops Zarate in Five (Defense #6)
By Christian Giudice, BOXING.com, August 29, 2014

It was one of those fights where the rabid Mexican and Puerto Rican fans expected all hell to break loose. Fixated on the middle of the ring, fans in the Roberto Clemente Coliseum in San Juan, Puerto Rico appeared ready to explode. A wave of excitement spread through the venue; that same passion would only intensify as the fight took hold.

Many boxing experts would look back to this bout as the precursor to the popular Mexican-Puerto Rican boxing rivalry. The enmity was fueled by WBC super bantamweight champion Wilfredo Gomez, who had earned a reputation for dousing the fire of Mexican challengers, the most recent a seventh-round stoppage of Mexico’s Juan Antonio Lopez in April 1978. Now, nearly five months later, Gomez was making his sixth title defense and successfully chartering a path to greatness. An opponent inextricably linked with Mexican’s past boxing giants, Carlos Zarate entered with a record of 52 victories, no losses, with 51 knockouts.

To add to the fervor surrounding the bout, Gomez and Zarate had a combined record of 73-0-1, with an astonishing 72 KOs. Similarly, when Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard met in 1980, they combined for a record of 98-1, but lacked the same impressive knockout ratio. Physically, Zarate stood two inches taller than Gomez, but lacked the same fluid movement and speed. Zarate relied on power in both hands, and would be in hot pursuit of the knockout punch; comparatively, Gomez had confidence that his pressure and ability to adapt to any challenge would be the key. For Gomez, there was no hurry: the knockout would eventually come.

Neither fighter made the 122-pound limit on the first attempt as both weighed over 124 pounds. In fact, Zarate needed four trips to the scale to make 122. When the bell rang on October 28, 1978, neither fighter looked to set a blistering pace. Zarate and Gomez took turns as the aggressor. Instead of coming forward, Gomez appeared comfortable in the counterpuncher role. As Zarate stalked, Gomez flitted in and out of punching range.

Eventually, Gomez’s confidence grew when he landed the first significant punch of the fight. It occurred when Gomez countered Zarate with a straight right and then eased him into a lunging left hook. Both fighters spent a good portion of the first round devising a clear strategy to get inside. Patiently, each fighter embraced this more passive approach over the first three rounds. Although Gomez was more effective landing an overhand right, Zarate opted for a left uppercut thrown from below his waist.

Toward the end of the third round, Gomez beautifully set Zarate up with a lazy left, and then immediately closed the gap with a jolting right hand that landed directly above Zarate’s guard. Amid a torrent of fans itching for the typical Gomez attack, the champion had still not yet unleashed his blend of speed and power.

Early in the fourth, Gomez was content to fight going backwards and let Zarate come to him. Mixing in a check left hook and an occasional jab, Gomez disrupted Zarate’s gameplan. Susceptible to left hooks and an occasional straight right, Gomez hadn’t completely deciphered the Mexican legend’s style. Still, Gomez recovered to land a lead hook that sent Zarate to the canvas toward the end of the round.

Zarate took a standing eight-count and immediately began to take more punishment. Gomez followed him to the other ring post and cautiously looked for an opening; seconds later he found one, a clean right hand that staggered Zarate. Not finished, Gomez followed him to the middle of the ring where he sent him down for the second time with a glancing right hand after the bell. The referee, Harry Gibbs, stepped in to start the count, but Zarate had risen and Gomez ran over to him to land one more left hook.

Gomez’s intensity reached its peak as he refused to sit in his corner, anxiously awaiting the chance to end the fight.

Continuing the onslaught in the fifth and final round, Gomez landed three hooks, the last one a glancing blow off of Zarate’s head. Then, Gomez moved Zarate to the ropes – with a right hand to his ear – where he landed the same uncontested vicious left hook that sent him down a round earlier. Seconds later, Gomez sent Zarate through the ropes as Gibbs made a half-hearted attempt to step in.

“When Wilfredo fought Zarate, Zarate was not at his best,” said Paul Ruiz, who managed Alfredo Escalera at the time. “Gomez did get ready. He had to be at his best. But I didn’t expect that type of performance.

“I did expect a better fight from Zarate. Everybody was going crazy in Puerto Rico. Gomez had just beaten the best Mexican since Ruben Olivares. Zarate could punch like a mule, but he didn’t show anything that night.”

The fight was stopped at :44 of the fifth when Gomez knocked Zarate down again and then viciously stepped in to land a straight right as Zarate crawled on his knees. Zarate’s corner threw in the towel even before Gibbs began the count. In the end, Zarate, a courageous warrior, wilted under the extreme pressure that Gomez applied. As soon as the towel was thrown, the celebration began!

1. 10-9 Gomez. He's brought that lateral movement that troubled Zarate in the Andres Hernandez fight, but with it he looks a physical match for Zarate and brings a better offensive repertoire. Gomez with a nice left hook and couple quick flurries to take a close opener. No surprise to see Carlos drop the first

2. 9-10 Zarate. Not a right hand thrown in the first 2 minutes and Zarate seemed to get the better of the left handed battle, with reach and variety. It bursts into life with two nice flurries from Gomez near the corner that steals him the advantage but Zarate matches those in the last minute to probably sneak a tight round

3. 10-9 Gomez. Good round with both guys landing solid shots, But Gomez does seem to roll with more of them, while his wicked fast counters catch Zarate more upright, this is a level of skill that Zarate has not encountered and a partisan crowd and electric atmosphere he is probably not used to.

4. 10-7 Gomez. He is a very good fighter to watch. Slick, fast and stylish he catches Zarate with a few rights he doesn't see coming. It's a nice left hook that drops him late in the round. The footage breaks up badly in what appeared to be a hectic end to the round, I must go find that because it seemed chaos that carries on right after the bell.

5. KO the towel came in but the ref had completely lost control of that fight. After letting it carry on after the bell in the 4th, Gomez knocks Zarate down in the 5th and carries on fighting after he's down. Not only does the ref do little to stop him, he seems to forget Zarate was down and doesn't administer a count. Gomez goes after him and knocks him down again and again hits him hard while on the deck. The towel comes in as the ref is trying to pull Gomez away from Zarate. Fucking chaos and the place is an absolute mad house.

Found other footage and it all breaks up in the same place, but some of it is a bit more viewable. They must have been watching the same 20 second segment on repeat and wore the tape out.
And no wonder, the end of the 4th is absolute madness. Gomes does almost drop him before the bell in the corner and the ref could have counted that too. As the bell rings more than once Gomes goes after him and drops him well after the bell. The ref gets between them but Gomez still tries again as Zarate is trying to get up and return to his corner, now several seconds after the bell has gone.
 
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Carlos Zarate vs John Kodjo Mensan
Kpolongo enters the fight with a reported record of 45-2 and somehow rated number #1 by the WBC. He did in fact have a 1-4-0 record and had lost his first 4 fights to the same guy. 🤷‍♂️

Worse still, his next opponent was a debutant called Celso Chairez, that would never fight again. Zarate had no shame it appeared. Thankfully the WBC didn't sanction that one though

 

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Carlos Zarate vs Lupe Pintor
Thankfully Zarate did take on some live bodies too. Lupe was a good fighter but I did struggle to find footage of him prior to this fight where he enters 38 (32)-4-0 on a 5 fight winning run all by stoppage.
The fight gives us 2 scorecards of 8 rounds to 7 for Pintor and one card that reads 17 round to 5 for Zarate. Something tells me someone spiked Bob Martins drink before this one


Lupe Pintor 118 lbs beat Carlos Zarate 118 lbs by SD in round 15 of 15

"A surprised Lupe Pintor took the WBC bantamweight championship from Carlos Zarate, 117 1/2, yesterday with a split decision that caused a gasp when it was announced. Pintor, who had been standing quietly in his corner, opened his mouth in obvious surprise when the verdict was announced at the end of the 15 round fight at Caesars Palace. Zarate, however, showed little emotion at the decision although he did cover his head with his gloves. Pintor, who weighed the class limit of 118, went down in the 4th round from a right-left combination to the head. There were no other knockdowns. In the 10th round Zarate bloodied Pintor's nose and in the 11th opened a cut above the new champion's left eye. Zarate appeared to be on the defensive through much of the fight. Pintor kept moving him back and most of Zarate's blows were counter-punches. And this aggressiveness obviously paid off in the eyes of two judges. He threw hard, fast punches and concentrated on the head." -Associated Press

  • Purses: Zarate - $150,000 (app.), Pintor - $40,000 (app.)
Unofficial scorecards

  • AP - 147-138 Zarate
  • Boxing Illustrated - 144-142 Zarate
  • International Boxing - 9-4-2 Zarate (IB opting to score it on a rounds basis)
  • Ring Magazine - 145-138 Zarate
 

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Jeff Chandler
With no more footage of Jorge Lujan and his WBA title reign, I'll bring in the next man in the story of the WBA. Jeff Chandler (we will get to see Chandler defend against Lujan)

But before then we have some pre-title footage

Chandler vs Davey Vasquez 03/04/79

 

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Jeff Chandler vs Andres Hernandez
With Chandler going the distance in these 3 and having seen Puppy fight, I suspect this might be a dull affair, but I'll give it a shot.

 

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Carlos Zarate vs John Kodjo Mensan
Kpolongo enters the fight with a reported record of 45-2 and somehow rated number #1 by the WBC. He did in fact have a 1-4-0 record and had lost his first 4 fights to the same guy. 🤷‍♂️

Worse still, his next opponent was a debutant called Celso Chairez, that would never fight again. Zarate had no shame it appeared. Thankfully the WBC didn't sanction that one though


1. 10-9 Zarate, comfortable in there in a quicker than usual start
2.10-9 Zarate, nothing to worry Zarate here, he's pummelling him to the body, landing some good head shots. Kpolongo's only worthwhile attribute is some reasonable head movement as he slips the odd shot. Other than that, he is trying to hit Zarate but failing miserably.
3. KO Zarate. A nonsense. Kpolongo had dreadful punch technique that got worse as he tired, Zarate punished the body more and hort him throughout. Although the two shots that stopped it seemed to hit the gloves and Kpolongo unconvincingly threw himself to the canvas. Didn't learn a great deal there, other than that dangerous experienced world champions probably shouldn't be in with novices with losing records.
 

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Carlos Zarate vs Lupe Pintor
Thankfully Zarate did take on some live bodies too. Lupe was a good fighter but I did struggle to find footage of him prior to this fight where he enters 38 (32)-4-0 on a 5 fight winning run all by stoppage.
The fight gives us 2 scorecards of 8 rounds to 7 for Pintor and one card that reads 17 round to 5 for Zarate. Something tells me someone spiked Bob Martins drink before this one


Lupe Pintor 118 lbs beat Carlos Zarate 118 lbs by SD in round 15 of 15

"A surprised Lupe Pintor took the WBC bantamweight championship from Carlos Zarate, 117 1/2, yesterday with a split decision that caused a gasp when it was announced. Pintor, who had been standing quietly in his corner, opened his mouth in obvious surprise when the verdict was announced at the end of the 15 round fight at Caesars Palace. Zarate, however, showed little emotion at the decision although he did cover his head with his gloves. Pintor, who weighed the class limit of 118, went down in the 4th round from a right-left combination to the head. There were no other knockdowns. In the 10th round Zarate bloodied Pintor's nose and in the 11th opened a cut above the new champion's left eye. Zarate appeared to be on the defensive through much of the fight. Pintor kept moving him back and most of Zarate's blows were counter-punches. And this aggressiveness obviously paid off in the eyes of two judges. He threw hard, fast punches and concentrated on the head." -Associated Press

  • Purses: Zarate - $150,000 (app.), Pintor - $40,000 (app.)
Unofficial scorecards

  • AP - 147-138 Zarate
  • Boxing Illustrated - 144-142 Zarate
  • International Boxing - 9-4-2 Zarate (IB opting to score it on a rounds basis)
  • Ring Magazine - 145-138 Zarate

This will be my third attempt at scoring this. My previous cards read 143-142 Zarate and 145 - 141 Zarate
both cards agree on every round after the third. but I'll give it a final watch to get my third card to see if it is a UD, MD or SD

1. 9-10 Pintor. Quiet and close, both with a few jabs, Zarate edging that. Pintor pressed Zarate throughout threw a couple left hooks and landed one and perhaps made contact with an over hand right
2. 9-10 Pintor. real chess match, couple clean shot from Pintor, the difference, probably the left hook the best of them. Couple of short exchanges later but not sure either landed anything clean.
3. 10-9 Zarate. Pintor started brightly but Zarate controlled the bulk of the round, scoring a couple really solid right hands and winning the inside battle. Pintor finished strong but never landed anything to make me doubt my scoring
4. 10-8 Zarate. Good round for the big man, using his reach but also good movement from the outside to burst in with two shots at a time. The knockdown came from just that coming in behind a right cross, left hook combination that drops Pintor hard.
5. 10-9 Zarate piled the pressure on Pintor, hammering him against the ropes. mid round was close with nice inside work by both. Zarate closes well with some nicely picked single shots that rock Pintor
6. 9-10 Pintor, starts with good body punching, the odd single shot. He moves forward when leading but he has started using his feet to get his counters off, edging back while Zarate is throwing before firing back and it is working here on a couple occasions
7. 9-10 Pintor good first 2 and a half minutes from Lupe but Zarate starts scoring stiff jabs late and a couple combinations up close maybe enough to steal the round? Not quite on my card this time
8. 10-9 Zarate. Very close round, Zarate showing quite a bit of respect again early on, grew into the round and just slightly edged the effective punching, but Pintor landed a couple jarring jabs himself. Left hand the highlight of the fight for both so far.
9. 10-9 Zarate, couple right hands gets through, he probably edges a busy last minute and he's very good at just firing out short sharp lefts just as Pintor goes to make a move. Sometimes catches gloves but enough to break his momentum
10. 9-10 Pintor. close until Pintor jars his head back with a left hook. Shortly after he hurt him with a left hook, right cross, left hook combination but doesn't really capitalise on it, despite seeing he rocked Zarate
11. 9-10 Pintor. That left hook is a cracking weapon, Zarate doesn't give him a lot of openings but he finds them with great timing and accuracy and there's a weight behind them too. rocked Zarate with a couple again
12. 10-9 Zarate. good hard fought round with Pintor leading first half, an uppercut his best shot, Zarate came back into it initially straight shots from outside, but worked really well inside toward the end, using his arms well as protection and he worked away, rolling and turning in hooks
13. 10-10 Even. Quiet round, lots of jabs, not a lot landing with Zarate keeping it long. Zarate scored a right left, he lands those really well, Pintor a nice right cross.
14. 10-9 Zarate. Almost as close as last but much more action. They land simultaneously early but Zarate staggers. from there Zarate lands more power shots and a one two rocks Pintor late. Both score well though
15. 10-9 Zarate. Pintor scored some decent body shots, but Zarate busier and landing more upstairs and put more into what was well short of a typical Mexican last round. Both still had spring left in their legs but not so much in their hands

144 - 141 Zarate
Well I looked at my card going into the last third of the fight and I knew my previous 2 score cards had given Pintor rounds 10/11/14/15. I thought my card was going to throw up a narrow Pintor win but I contradicted my own previous scoring attempts and gave Zarate the last 2 rounds.
This is a good if not spectactular fight, decent action, a knock down and a few hurtful shots throughout. Not worthy of 3 full watches complete with score cards, but tactically it was intriguing to an extent but perhaps a little too much respect between former gym mates.
The title passes on to a new owner though and Zarate would take a 7 year retirement before trying again.
He has been decent value even if he maybe lacked some genuine big wins

Previous cards

Previously

Carlos Zarate vs Lupe Pintor

1. 10 - 10 Even
2. 10 - 10 Even
3. 10 - 9 Zarate
4. 10 - 8 Zarate
5. 10 - 9 Zarate
6. 9 - 10 Pintor
7. 10 - 9 Zarate
8. 10 - 9 Zarate
9. 10 - 9 Zarate
10. 9 - 10 Pintor
11. 9 - 10 Pintor
12. 10 - 9 Zarate
13. 10 - 9 Zarate
14. 9 - 10 Pintor
15. 9 - 10 Pintor

145 - 141 Zarate

What in the blue fvck was this fella watching???
Bob Martin 145-133

Two hard hitting Mexicans. The world would have been expecting a war and as is so often the case, both came in with far too much respect and the fight really struggled to get going in the early stages.
Throughout they never really got into full gear and showed respect but the fight did get started by the 4th.

Zarate looked the better fighter and for me he felt like the winner at the end of the 15. He boxed well to restrict Pintor to few opportunities
Pintor had success when he could close the range but Zarate looked comfortable when things heated up as well. You get the feeling this could have been an absolute barn stormer if Pintor could have closed the distance a little more often

Carlos Zarate vs Lupe Pintor

1. 10-10 even
2. 9-10 Pintor
3. 9-10 Pintor
4. 10-8 Zarate
5. 10-9 Zarate
6. 9-10 Pintor
7. 10-9 Zarate
8. 10-9 Zarate
9. 10-9 Zarate
10. 9-10 Pintor
11. 9-10 Pintor
12. 10-9 Zarate
13. 10-9 Zarate
14. 9-10 Pintor
15. 9-10 Pintor.

143-142 Zarate.

Not a shock result seeing Pintor win, although I scored it wider to Pintor previously.

I was most of the way through this by the time I realised I'd watched this before.
And also realised that I didn't particularly enjoy it last time. Decent if unspectacular fight with a mildly controversial outcome.
 
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Jeff Chandler
With no more footage of Jorge Lujan and his WBA title reign, I'll bring in the next man in the story of the WBA. Jeff Chandler (we will get to see Chandler defend against Lujan)

But before then we have some pre-title footage

Chandler vs Davey Vasquez 03/04/79

Pretty poor footage in this one so I can't see shots land and won't score it. Will give part 2, 3 and 4 of this video a miss. But early signs are that Vasquez in game but scrappy. Erratic movement, raiding attacks he looks a handful. Chandler looks the opposite, composed and patient, he looks a textbook technically sound boxer, economical with his movement and picks his shots well. He looks a good size at the weight and strong against the smaller Vasquez, you see a couple times, when he misses a shot, he can strong arm and manoeuvre Vasquez.

I like Chandlers style, could be good to watch, just hope the footage improves
 

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Jeff Chandler vs Justo Garcia 14/05/79


I'll just watch the first video of each of these, to get a flavour of Chandler

This fight opens with a couple of very well matched rounds, Garcia adopting a similar style and strategy to Chandler, that makes for an intriguing boxing match. Chandler beaten to the jab a couple times and struggles with Garcias head movement. But there are some decent shots landed by either man

The third really hots up with Garcia throwing in bunches and Chandler landing some solid shots....in fact ignore that earlier comment, I'm going to watch all of this, this could be a good little battle.

TBC
 

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Jeff Chandler vs Justo Garcia 14/05/79


1. 10-9 Chandler sharper and busier in the opening round. Garcia got a few in to the body and up close but Chandler generally boxing better

2. 9-10 Garcia. Close round Chandler had his success but threw over the mobile smaller fighter in Garcia who fired back with a few stiff jabs and counters

3. 9-10 Garcia, Chandler landed a few good single punches but Garcia giving him hell here. Not so much counter-punching, as retaliating, let's Chandler throw then goes after him with a short burst.

4. 10-9 Chandler, scored some cracking punches in that one, Garcia came back with a few decent ones of his own but a clear Chandler round

5. 10-9 Chandler. Lot of fast flurried exchanges where it was hard to tell who was landing. The commentary most impressed with Chandlers hand speed. Once the action slowed, we saw Jeff more comfortable picking his shots with the right over the top scoring

6. 10-9 Chandler boxed well early. Garcia keeps switching southpaw but it doesn't stop him getting clipped. Garcia at his best when throwing in volume and with speed but Garcia tends to go with him there

7. 9-10 Garcia. Chandler was doing well but Garcia switched southpaw and nailed him on the ropes and wailed away for a good spell where he hurt Chandler. Settled down toward the end but that burst won him it

8. 10-9 Chandler. Lot of good close exchanges. The difference was Chandler throwing a one two exiting the clinch or moving back out of exchanges. Garcia really guilty of leaving himself open in those situations

9. 10-9 Chandler. Getting the better of the infighting now planting his feet and rocking in hooks. They match up orthodox vs southpaw on the outside and the back hand thrown as a single shot works for both. Chandler scores a great uppercut late

***Massive fucking spoiler, with the commentary telling us that Rocky 2 finishes in a double knock out. I'd have been fucking raging watching this live**

10. 10-9 Chandler, close nip and tuck round, just thought Chandlers connect percentage probably higher in those close exchanges but not by much

97-93 Chandler. They say he's not a crowd pleaser but this is as good a battle as he's been in. It was an entertaining bout but does not bode well for future viewing.
 
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Lupe Pintor vs Alberto Sandoval


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Lupe Pintor 116 lbs beat Alberto Sandoval 118 lbs by TKO at 1:19 in round 12 of 15
Notes
  • Pintor collected $100,000, and Sandoval $25,000.
  • Sandoval, the WBC's No. 10 contender, had just one good round, the first, when he successfully danced and jabbed against the slower, more cautious champion.
  • Pintor scored heavily with hooks throughout the fight.
  • Pintor had controlled the bout most of the way, and stopped Sandoval with a flurry of punches that had him staggering when referee Carlos Padilla decided the challenger could take no more.
 

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Lupe Pintor vs Eijiro Murata

Unfortunately no footage for this, I like to score the draws

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Lupe Pintor vs. Eijiro Murata

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Lupe Pintor 118 lbs drew with Eijiro Murata 118 lbs by SD in round 15 of 15

Pintor, who was fighting outside of North America for the first time as a professional, started out well; landing three sharps jabs to the Japanese challenger's face, but Murata countered with a combination to the champion's head. The champion slipped to the canvas in the seventh round and the eight saw both fighters suffer cuts over their right eyes. In the ninth, Pintor cut Murata over the left eye with a solid left jab.
 

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Jeff Chandler vs Andres Hernandez
With Chandler going the distance in these 3 and having seen Puppy fight, I suspect this might be a dull affair, but I'll give it a shot.


1. 10-9 Chandler, another composed opener from Chandler, using his reach and picking shots well. Hernandez still mobile but not on the run like he was from Zarate, which is perhaps understandable. Has a few bursts of punches but not sure he lands much

2. 10-9 Chandler. Some good work from both, some quite scrappy and smothered in close. But Chandler catches him with cheeky little right hands that he didn't see coming, one early on and one late.

3. 10-9 Chandler. difficult to score some of these close exchanges but the seem to be quite evenly contested, when they break though you can see the cleaner shots from Chandler. Interesting that Hernandez, quickly abandons the movement to stand toe to toe with Chandler. Might abandon this as the footage is not great at all

4. 10-9 Chandler. Similar story to earlier rounds, Hernandez warned for some rough stuff, he has already punched low and now warned for holding.

Think i'll quit this here, shite footage but Chandler gets a UD for the USBA and NABF title
 

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Johnny Owen vs Wayne Evans BBBoC bantamweight title 06.04.1978

Time to get a bit of Background on the Merthyr matchstick


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